October 26, 2020

JF2246: Mindset Coach Madison Surdyke

Madison is a mindset and energy coach whose mission is to help people create more success, freedom, abundance, and impact in their life and others. She shares the importance of trusting yourself and how you can achieve your success to find freedom and reach your highest potential in your real estate career.

Madison Surdyke  Real Estate Background: (Joe requested her to be on)

  • Mindset and Energy Coach whos mission is to help people create more success, freedom, abundance, & impact
  • Been coaching for 3 years
  • She believes when you think higher-level thoughts, you feel higher-level energy which leads to taking higher-level action that can create higher-level results
  • Based in Dallas, TX
  • Say hi to her at: www.magneticallyyou.com  
  • Best Ever Book: Happy Pocket Full of Money

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Best Ever Tweet:

“Ask yourself, what will that future version of me who already has the success  want to do or think at this moment.” – Madison Surdyke


Theo Hicks: Hello, Best Ever listeners, and welcome to the best real estate investing advice ever show. I’m Theo Hicks, and today we are speaking with Madison Surdyke. Madison, how are you doing today?

Madison Surdyke: I’m doing amazing, how are you?

Theo Hicks: I’m doing good as well, thanks for asking and thanks for joining us. Looking forward to our conversation. Before we dive into that conversation, let’s go over Madison’s background. She’s a mindset and energy coach whose mission is to help people create more success, freedom, abundance and impact. She’s been coaching for three years, and believes when you think higher level thoughts, you feel higher level energy, which leads to taking higher level action, that can create higher level results.

So she’s not an investor, but since everyone listening is a real estate investor, we all want to achieve higher level results, so she’s a perfect fit for this podcast. She’s based in Dallas, Texas, and her website is MagneticallyYou.com.

Madison, do you mind telling us a little bit more about your background and then what you’re focused on today?

Madison Surdyke: I’ll try to keep it to the short version. In high school I struggled with an eating disorder. It was a really tough time in my life, and I went through this several years’ struggle where even after I had physically recovered, I was still thinking and worrying about food all the time, and it got to the point where I was like “Alright, something’s gotta change. I can’t live my life this way.” So I went on this mission to figure out how to stop these never-ending thought loops and worries and anxieties surrounding food, and to just free my mind so I could live my life without the constant worry and thinking and guilt and anxiety and all of that.

So I went through this journey with myself, I started just questioning everything I had been taught to believe about food and health and our bodies… And through that process, long story short, I basically without even knowing what I was doing, rewired my brain for food freedom. I started questioning all of my thoughts, replacing them with new thoughts, which then led me to acting in different ways, which then led me to experiencing different results in my life. All of the food worries disappeared…

So in the first iteration of my business I actually  helped women do the same thing, because I was like “Oh my gosh, nobody told me that I can just trust my body, and eat what I want, when I want, and my body will take care of me. I just have to listen to my intuition.” No one told me that and I needed everyone in the world to know how to really reprogram their brains in a way that allows them to think empowering thoughts, therefore take empowering actions, and therefore have a more empowering life. And through all that coaching, what I realized with my clients and for myself was that it was never about the food, and it became about so much more than the food, and I realized that through that journey that I had so much innate power to create my own life, my own results by choosing and changing my thoughts and my energy.

So I realized that I started applying all the same principles and tools and strategies to all areas of my life, and everything in my life started changing; I saw my business grow much more quickly, my relationships expanded… I was seeing so much more success, with so much more ease and so much less worry… So that’s when I really made the decision to pivot from just coaching around food and to really coaching around all areas of our life and how we can really use our thoughts and our energy to create the life that we want to create. More abundance, more freedom and more impact than we ever thought possible. So yeah, that’s what I work with my clients on today.

Theo Hicks: Perfect. Thanks for sharing that. So would you say that your process that you have – is it more of a step-by-step process that you walk everyone through, or is it more along the lines of a case-by-case basis, where what works for one person might not work for someone else? The reason I’m asking that is because I wanna figure out what follow-up questions to ask. So is it more of a one-size-fits-all approach, or is it a case-by-case, individualized approach when you’re coaching people?

Madison Surdyke: Yes and no. Basically, the way I coach and help people is I’m essentially helping them learn how to choose their own thought, choose their own feelings, and tap back into their intuition, which I feel like most of us are really just trying to completely ignore our intuition. So through that process, they’re able to create their own empowering actions and empowering results in their life. So it looks different for everyone, but essentially it’s that same process of really drowning out all of the noise of what we’ve been told that we should do or we need to do, or what we need to think, or what is true for us…

So many of us, for example, have been taught, especially in business, “It has to be hard. You have to hustle. You have to work 16 hours a day. You can’t sleep. You have to sacrifice. It has to be really hard in order to be successful.” What if that wasn’t true? What if you could do less and actually make more money? What if it didn’t have to be hard? What if it could be fun and it could be easy? So it’s really just looking at — for every person, those thoughts are different, but it’s like  “Okay, if these are your current thoughts and these are your current feelings and these are your current results, let’s look at what were those thoughts and feelings that created those results and how can we tweak those in a way that will allow you to produce different results?” Because in order to produce different results, obviously — I forget what that quote is, but you can’t expect different results if you keep doing the same thing over and over. It’s the definition of insanity, or something like that. I’m sure I’m butchering the quote.

Theo Hicks: So it’s about tapping back into the intuition and then questioning the conventional wisdom about success, for example. Your example was question the conventional wisdom of eating, and then more broadly about success. So I guess practically, when you say people need to rewire their brains, choose which thoughts they want to have, what does that actually look like? What type of exercises should people do in order to start moving towards that process?

Madison Surdyke: There’s a lot of things, and it’s actually a  lot easier than you might thing. I think there’s tons of tools and tons of practices, and really what I work with my clients on – there are millions of tools and practices that have worked for other people, but you have to choose the ones that feel good for you, because if they don’t feel good for you, if they’re not aligned with you, if your intuition is screaming no the whole time, then it’s not gonna work for you.

So things like meditation is extremely, extremely powerful. There’s been so many studies on people’s brains, that even just after one meditation session you can see very clear changes in the brain… And hypnosis is another thing; it’s very similar to meditation. It’s not scary or weird, it’s just very relaxing; it’s a way to really reprogram your brain and your subconscious mind, and all of those thought loops and patterns that are running on autopilot because our subconscious minds are really the drivers of our reality. I think they say it’s like 95% of our actions and habits and behaviors come from our subconscious mind.

So meditation, hypnosis… Journaling, really looking at what are the thoughts that I keep replaying in my head, that are holding me back, and asking yourself “Is that true? Was there ever a time in my life where it wasn’t true? What evidence do I have that this isn’t true? What might I like to believe instead? What beliefs do I need to adopt in order to get the results that I want? The version of me who already has –” I know your listeners are all into real estate, so the version of me who already has the real estate business that I want, what does he/she believe? What does he/she do on a daily basis? How does that version of me show up? How does that version of me think? What are their habits and how can I show up as and embody that version of me now? Because when you can show up as the version of you who’s already created the results you want, then obviously you’re already on your way to creating those results.

Theo Hicks: So journaling, meditation, and then you said hypnosis. So where do I go…? Obviously, you can meditate by yourself… Well, I guess – a follow-up on meditation. Do you just do it by yourself, or do you do a guided type of app?

Madison Surdyke: I do guided, just because for me I like it better. It feels better for me. So I actually have free meditations on my website; if you go to MagneticallyYou.com, you’ll see it front and center. You can download some and get started there. Obviously, YouTube and Google have tons of meditations and even hypnoses… And it’s just a really powerful way to really bring yourself back into alignment, get our of overwhelm, get out of your fears, get out of this hustle and grind mentality and really step into alignment and flow and ease in your life and in your business.

Theo Hicks: Now my follow-up question – you’re saying that there are apps and YouTube videos for hypnosis. I don’t need to actually go to someone to do this to me.

Madison Surdyke: How do you go to someone to do it to you? Is that what you’re asking?

Theo Hicks: I was asking — I know that you can meditate by yourself and you can journal by yourself. Do you need another person for hypnosis? Is there like a specialist you go to, or is there an app for that as well?

Madison Surdyke: There’s definitely apps… Someone told me a website yesterday… HypnosisDownloads.com. I haven’t been on it, so I can’t vouch for it; however, it was recommended by someone who I really trust, so maybe trying there. I do some hypnoses with my clients, if anyone’s interested in that… But yeah, you also can find so many free resources on Google if you’re having trouble with anxiety. You could look up hypnosis for anxiety, and I’m sure you could find something. It’s also a process you can do for yourself. Maybe if you listen to one and there’s something in particular you’re struggling with, you could literally record your own voice… Which sounds weird, but it actually is really powerful, especially because our brains are very receptive to our own voice, and it’s something you can even create for yourself with just a little bit of research… But yeah, there’s tons of free resources out there.

I have free meditations on my website. Actually, I have a five-day meditation challenge that used to be a paid offer, but I’m actually making it a free offer soon. So by the time this gets released, that should be on my website. It’s five days of guided meditations, and it’s an amazing, amazing place to start for anyone who’s new to meditation, or skeptical about it. It’s just a great five-day experiment.

And that’s another thing, too – experimenting. I think it’s so powerful in our lives, because a lot of times we think we wanna change a habit, and then we think “Okay, I have to do this habit for the rest of my life”, but it’s like “What if we just do a five-day experiment with meditation?” We don’t have to meditate every day for the rest of our lives; that feels too big and too insurmountable, and most of us are like “Nope, let’s just not do that.” But what if we just did an experiment and see how it goes, and then after the experiment you can feel it out and then make a decision if it’s something you want to continue experimenting with. I feel like it takes so much of that pressure off of what we should be doing or what we’re supposed to be doing.

Theo Hicks: Oh yeah, that’s huge. [unintelligible [00:14:21].08] Just do it for a little bit, and make sure that it works. Alright, so we were talking about this a little bit beforehand, but obviously, how you start your day is going to affect your mindset and your energy for the rest of the day. So what would you say is the ideal way for someone to start their day? Should it be a routine? Should it be something different every day? Should you just jump right into work? Should you have some daily practice? What are your thoughts on that.

Madison Surdyke: Okay, I love this question so much, because I feel like there’s so much advice out there about morning routines… Like “This is the million dollar morning routine. You have to do these exact steps.” And that’s just not my style. I think the best routine and practice anyone can have for themselves in the morning is the one that feels best for them.

If you’re doing something because you’re supposed to or you have to and it becomes this thing that feels like a to-do or  a chore, it’s not going to serve you, and you may as well just not even do it. It’s not even useful. So I think  it’s finding a morning routine that feels good for you, and that may look the exact same every day, or it might be different every day. You might just wake up and ask yourself “What do I need to nourish my mind, body and soul today? What do I need right now? What would feel really good for me today?” and maybe that’s your practice. Maybe you ask yourself that one question and you let yourself be guided to what your intuition is telling you you need that day.

For me, I like a little bit more structure, so my non-negotiable morning routine is I wake up, I have Matcha – if you don’t know what that is, it’s a green tea latte, but that’s beside the point; it’s kind of like an alternative to coffee. And then I journal. And those are my two non-negotiable things. Because I used to wake up and I would run for the coffee, and I would immediately open my computer and start working… And I feel like your brain does not work as well; things take way longer, the day feels so much more overwhelming, and you spend so much more time working, but you’re way less productive.

So I think it’s whatever feels good for you, and making sure you have that practice and that space for yourself in the morning, where you’re taking care of yourself. And I know we were talking about this before; we both like working out, and working out is oftentimes a big part of my practice… But I think there’s so many different things you could do, and it’s really just finding the practices and rituals that feel right for you. Sometimes my mornings include meditation, hypnosis, doing a workout, doing tapping, which is another way to reprogram your brain – it’s called emotional freedom technique. But that’s maybe for another time.

But yeah, there’s all kinds of different things you can do, and I would say the best routine for you is the routine that allows you to feel good and expands your thinking and your energy in a way that allows you to confidently take the actions that you need in order to create the results that you want. If waking up in the morning and running for your computer is not allowing you to feel your best and create your best work, then what if you try something different?

Theo Hicks: Alright Madison, what is your best mindset and energy advice ever?

Madison Surdyke: Listen to yourself. Let yourself be guided and just ask yourself “What would that future version of me who already has the results/success/business/whatever it is that I want – what would that version of me think or do in this moment?”

Theo Hicks: Alrighty. Are you ready for the best ever lightning round?

Madison Surdyke: I’m ready. How lightning is lightning…?

Theo Hicks: We’re about to find out after this quick word from our sponsor.

Break: [00:17:57].00] to [00:18:48].07]

Theo Hicks: Okay Madison, what is the best ever book you’ve recently read?

Madison Surdyke: Okay, I have to pick two… The first one is Happy Pocket Full of Money. It’s all about essentially reprogramming your mindset around money in order to create more abundance in your life. It’s really powerful. It goes into quantum physics, and it’s amazing.

The other book is called “You are the placebo” by Joe Dispenza, and it’s all about how we have the power to create and heal anything in our life through the power of our thoughts and through the power of meditation. So both are really great books.

Theo Hicks: If your coaching business were to collapse today, what would you do next?

Madison Surdyke: Probably restart a coaching business… Or if I had to do something totally different, interior design.

Theo Hicks: I usually ask about your best deal or your worst deal, but I’m gonna change it up a little bit, because I had this question earlier… So what would you say is the  most common worst thought loop your clients have, that’s the hardest to break?

Madison Surdyke: Okay, this is a good question… The hardest thought loop to break… The lack of belief in possibility. “It’s not possible for me. It worked for them, but this won’t work for me.” It’s that lack of belief in possibility that keeps you closed off to all of the infinite opportunities and possibilities that are out there.

But about losing on a deal – I wanna touch on that one, because I have something interesting that probably no one has answered before…

Theo Hicks: Oh, perfect.

Madison Surdyke: Okay, my thing is I’m not in real estate; my boyfriend is, so I’m kind of familiar; that’s how I’m connected with you guys on this podcast… But  I don’t feel like we’re ever losing money, because we’re not losing money, we’re gaining lessons, and most of the time it’s in those moments where we “lose” the most money that we gain the most lessons, which allows us to gain the most money in the future. So I think that there’s actually no such thing as losing money; we’re only gaining lessons.

Theo Hicks: Yup. [unintelligible [00:20:40].16] everyone on the podcast knows he says that: “There’s no such thing as failure, there’s only feedback.” So kind of along the same lines with what you’re saying.

Madison Surdyke: Yes, exactly. And losing money, losing out on a deal is that same thing – it’s just feedback and information to allow you to create more in the future. And how awesome is that, that you now have more information to better inform you going forward?

Theo Hicks: What is the best ever way you like to give back?

Madison Surdyke: One of my favorite ways is tipping a lot. I really like to surprise people at a coffee shop or a restaurant with just a really nice tip. It feels good to just give in that way and show appreciation.

Theo Hicks: I like that one. I don’t think I’ve heard that one on this show before. It’s a great way to give back.

Madison Surdyke: Cool. Yeah.

Theo Hicks: Alright. And lastly, what’s the best ever place to reach you?

Madison Surdyke: My Instagram, @magneticallyyou, or at my website, MagneticallyYou.com.

Theo Hicks: Alright, Madison, I really appreciate you coming on this show today and giving us your advice on mindset and energy. I really like what you said about the morning routine; there’s a lot of different morning routines out there. There’s the ones that “This one’s guaranteed to result in millions and millions of dollars for you”, and something you mentioned about it being a chore, and it just being something else you stress about in your life is not useful to you at all.

You mentioned that it’s better to select a morning routine that works best for you, that feels best for you, and that really is a theme that I got from everything you talked about. You said your main goal when you are working with clients is to help them tap back into their intuition, tap back into their feelings, and then leveraging that… As opposed to ignoring that and just following external wisdom about, for example, you need to work thousands of hours every single week in order to be successful.

You also mentioned a lot of practical exercises people can use in order to tap back into that intuition. Again, finding the ones that are the best for you, that feel good for you. You said meditation, you’ve got free meditation on your website… You said hypnosis, at hypnosisdownloads.com, and then journaling. You said ask questions like “What are the most common thoughts that I have? Are these thoughts true? Do I have evidence to support that they’re true, or are they actually not true? What beliefs and thoughts do I need to have in order to get the results that I want?”

Something else that you said I really liked was about experimenting. So rather than adopting a new routine and telling yourself that you’re gonna do it for a year, just tell yourself that you’re gonna do it for a week, and then you’re gonna analyze the results, and if it’s helpful, if you like it, you’ll keep doing it; if not, you’ll find something else.

And then lastly, your best ever advice, which was to listen to yourself, and then picture your future self, the one who has achieved whatever goal you want, and then ask yourself what would that future self do in this situation, or what would this future self do right now?

Again, lots of really solid advice in this episode, so we really appreciate you coming on and sharing that with us. Best Ever listeners, as always, thank you for listening. Have a best ever day, and we’ll talk to you tomorrow.

Madison Surdyke: Thank you.

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